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David Birney Guest
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:00 am Post subject: Frains' of Loughglynn/Ballaghadereen |
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Hi All
Wondering if some kind soul is able to assist me in my research. My gggrandfather, John Frain married Catherine Ward sometime around 1850. The children that I have found so far (with the help of others) are Michael, James, Bridget, Mary, Thomas, Catherine and Anne. I think that all but Anne were born in Loughglynn, Roscommon. Anne was born in Ballaghadereen, Mayo 1864.
Bridget married my ggrandfather, John Kelly sometime 1880. John was from Ardnaree (suburb of Ballina). Can anyone help me locate any other Siblings of John Frain and Catherine Ward, or even when they were married, or the marriage of John Kelly and Bridget Frain.
Thank You
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aharney
Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 9 Location: Rhode Island, USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:10 am Post subject: Frain's during Griffiths Valuation |
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Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864
Frain, John County : Mayo
Parish : Aghamore
Location : Rath
Frain, Patrick County : Westmeath
Parish : Castlelost
Location : Castlelost V/Rochfortbridge
Frain, Thomas County : Kilkenny
Parish : St. Mauls
Location : Newpark Lower
Frain, Thomas County : Mayo
Parish : Aghamore
Location : Rath
Frain, Thomas County : Mayo
Parish : Aghamore
Location : Rath
Comment : Weaver
Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864
James Ward
Parish : Tibohine (Loughglynn)
Location : Carrownaknockaun
I understand part of Mayo became Roscommon parishes. This may be your answer...
HTH,
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aharney
Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 9 Location: Rhode Island, USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:14 am Post subject: Frane PS |
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Perhaps it was listed as Frayne or Frain
Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864
Frayne, Thomas County : Roscommon
Parish : Tibohine
Location : Barnacawley
Do a search on Frane on www.familysearch.org
Lots there...
Ann |
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mike Guest
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: Frane PS |
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aharney wrote: | Perhaps it was listed as Frayne or Frain
Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864
Frayne, Thomas County : Roscommon
Parish : Tibohine
Location : Barnacawley
Do a search on Frane on www.familysearch.org
Lots there...
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Thomas Frayne (Frain) (1806 - 1871) of Barnacawley was my Great Grandfather! He married Mary Coffey (also 1806 - 1871) in 1830. they had 6 children two of whom married into Higgins and Dyer Families. If this Connects with anyone , I would love to hear and swop information. By any chance was Mary Coffey a member of Jim Coffey's Family?
Mike, email michael@michaelfrain.wanadoo.co.uk. |
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John Hunter
Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Posts: 245 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:47 am Post subject: |
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Baptisms recorded in the LDS British Isles Vital Records CD for Loughglynn Catholic parish, County Roscommon, Ireland.
FREYNE, Michaelem Christening Date: 6 Sep 1850
Father: Joannis FREYNE Mother: Catharinae WARD
Source: FHL Film 989753 Dates: 1849 - 1863
FREYNE, Jacobum Christening Christening Date:24 Oct 1852
Father: Joannis FREYNE Mother: Catharinae WARD
Source: FHL Film 989753 Dates: 1849 - 1863
FRAYNE, Brigidam Christening Date: 28 May 1854
Father: Joannis FRAYNE Mother: Catharinae WARD
Source: FHL Film 989753 Dates: 1849 – 1863
FREYNE, Mariam Christening Date: 16 Feb 1856
Father: Joannis FREYNE Mother: Catharinae WARD
Source: FHL Film 989753 Dates: 1849 - 1863
FREYNE, Thomam Christening Date: 15 Sep 1857
Father: Joannis FREYNE Mother: Catharinae WARD
Source: FHL Film 989753 Dates: 1849 - 1863
FREYNE, Catharinam Christening Date: 23 Jul 1859
Father: Joannis FREYNE Mother: Catharinae WARD
Source: FHL Film 989753 Dates: 1849 - 1863
Possible baptisms of John’s father:
FRAIN, Joannem Christening Date: 20 Jun 1818
Father: Joannis FRAIN Mother: Brigittae FREGHILY
Source: FHL Film 989753 Dates: 1817 - 1826
FRAIN, Joannem Christening Date: 22 Nov 1821
Father: Martini FRAIN Mother: Mariae CONNOR
Source: FHL Film 989753 Dates: 1817 – 1826
The LDS film will show the baptismal sponsors. It may show the townland.
For a list of townlands in Loughglynn Catholic parish, see the Loughglynn Catholic map at http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/LR_maps.html
Note all the townlands are in Tibohine Civil parish except for Clooncan in Kilkeevin Civil Parish.
According to the “Householders Index” located at the start of the County Roscommon Griffith’s Valuation microfich, persons named Freyne lived in both Kilkeevin and Tibohine Civil parishes at Tithe Applotment.
The 1825 Tithe Applotment records for Tibohine Civil parish are on LDS microfilm 256693 and National Library Ireland microfilm 87 – 25/10.
The 1833 Tithe Applotment records for Kilkeevan Civil parish are on LDS microfilm 256633 and National Library Ireland microfilm 88 – 25/15.
Griffith’s Valuation records for Tibohine Civil parish can be viewed at:
http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/ It is important to check all likely surname spellings.
Griffith’s Valuation records for Clooncan townland, Kilkeevin Civil Parish, do not include surnames Frain, Frane, Frayne or Freyne.
You may find the area of land varies in Tithe Applotment records when compared to Griffith’s Valuation. Note that the measurement used was the Plantation or Irish acre, which differs in size from the Imperial or English acre, used in Griffiths Valuation. The ratio is 30.25 : 49. The different types of acres used in each will account for difference in size of land held by a family from one valuation to the other if they appear in both. For example, Killummod townland was 212 acres at Tithe Applotment and 348 acres at Griffiths Valuation. If you apply the ratio to Killummod townland you'll get a small variance which could be attributed to the accuracy of the surveyors.
Once you locate a townland you find the change of occupiers of land from 1857 to c1920 by viewing the LDS Change of occupiers film for the townland.
The 1901 Census of Kilkeevin and Tibohine Civil parishes includes many entries for Frain. Visit http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/1901census/ Remember to check the “other occupies column”.
John _________________ Beirne, Byrne, Connor, Hedian, Moraghan, Nerney. Hunter, Gildea, Kildea
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David Birney Guest
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:05 am Post subject: Frains' of Loughglynn/Ballaghadereen |
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Dear All
Thank you so much for your kind information. It is greatly appreciated.
David Birney
Victoria
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Mary Frayne
Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 1 Location: Rhode Island, USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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David, this is great! Thanks for telling me about this bulletin board. We'll find all the Frain/Frayne's yet!!!
Your newly found cousin :)
Mary Frayne
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