James McMorrow

Brent Murray · Post by **Brent Murray** » Thu Mar 01, 2001 11:58 pm

My greatgrandfather's name was John Murray who emigrated to the US in the 1860's to the Montana Territory. He received a letter from his brother James McMorrow, of Mohill County Leitrim. The letter was dated 1887. James McMorrow was the Head Constable Royal Irish Constabulary for counties Clare and Cork. He was a member of the Royal Irish Constabulary for 30 years. He lived 1/2 mile from Mohill on 28 acres. His oldest daughter Mary Jane McMorrow emigrated to US settling in Oakland, California. James McMorrow had 6 children from a second marriage. Rose Ann, Charles Edward, James Joseph, John Francis, Francis Kate, and Patrick. If you would have information please email my address. Thank you.
 
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Maggie Vatterott · Post by **Maggie Vatterott** » Sun Mar 04, 2001 8:15 pm

(User Above) wrote: : My greatgrandfather's name was John Murray who emigrated to the US in the 1860's to the Montana Territory. He received a letter from his brother James McMorrow, of Mohill County Leitrim. The letter was dated 1887. James McMorrow was the Head Constable Royal Irish Constabulary for counties Clare and Cork. He was a member of the Royal Irish Constabulary for 30 years. He lived 1/2 mile from Mohill on 28 acres. His oldest daughter Mary Jane McMorrow emigrated to US settling in Oakland, California. : James McMorrow had 6 children from a second marriage. Rose Ann, Charles Edward, James Joseph, John Francis, Francis Kate, and Patrick. : If you would have information please email my address. Thank you.Brent, My greatgrandfather was a Peter McMorrow supposedly born here in St. Louis in 1857 - son of John & Margaret McMorrow - though I cannot find them anywhere listed in the St. Louis area at that time. Any information on the John McMorrow you talk about? Don't know when my John & Margaret came,or if they really did. Any information you have would be helpful. Thanks, Maggie Vatterott

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Jean Pogrell · Post by **Jean Pogrell** » Fri Mar 23, 2001 11:39 pm

(User Above) wrote: : : My greatgrandfather's name was John Murray who emigrated to the US in the 1860's to the Montana Territory. He received a letter from his brother James McMorrow, of Mohill County Leitrim. The letter was dated 1887. James McMorrow was the Head Constable Royal Irish Constabulary for counties Clare and Cork. He was a member of the Royal Irish Constabulary for 30 years. He lived 1/2 mile from Mohill on 28 acres. His oldest daughter Mary Jane McMorrow emigrated to US settling in Oakland, California. : : James McMorrow had 6 children from a second marriage. Rose Ann, Charles Edward, James Joseph, John Francis, Francis Kate, and Patrick. : : If you would have information please email my address. Thank you.: Brent, : My greatgrandfather was a Peter McMorrow supposedly born here in St. Louis in 1857 - son of John & Margaret McMorrow - though I cannot find them anywhere listed in the St. Louis area at that time. Any information on the John McMorrow you talk about? Don't know when my John & Margaret came,or if they really did. Any information you have would be helpful. Thanks, Maggie Vatterott:Sorry, nothing to contribute, but I am looking for the family and ancestors of Margaret McMorrow, born in Leitrim county in 1814. She married Patrick Kelly. They moved to Bradford, Canada in 1851 and to the U.S.A. in 1865, settling in Nebraska about 1868. If you know of any connections, please let me know. Thanks, Jean Pogrell

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Jim Herlihy · Post by **Jim Herlihy** » Sat Apr 07, 2001 1:23 pm

(User Above) wrote: : My greatgrandfather's name was John Murray who emigrated to the US in the 1860's to the Montana Territory. He received a letter from his brother James McMorrow, of Mohill County Leitrim. The letter was dated 1887. James McMorrow was the Head Constable Royal Irish Constabulary for counties Clare and Cork. He was a member of the Royal Irish Constabulary for 30 years. He lived 1/2 mile from Mohill on 28 acres. His oldest daughter Mary Jane McMorrow emigrated to US settling in Oakland, California. : James McMorrow had 6 children from a second marriage. Rose Ann, Charles Edward, James Joseph, John Francis, Francis Kate, and Patrick. : If you would have information please email my address. Thank you.

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Jim Herlihy · Post by **Jim Herlihy** » Sat Apr 07, 2001 1:25 pm

I presume from your e-mail that you have not read both my books on the Royal Irish Constabulary. Both of them should answer your questions in finding your ancestor's RIC Service Records. There is also a very very strong possibility that he had relatives in the RIC. You had to be 19 to join, but if your father was in the service you could be aged 18 years. Similarly, you had to be 5'9" in height, but if your father was in the RIC you could be 5'8". You could not serve in your home county or that of your wife and you had to have seven years service before you were permitted to marry. Also there were 549 RIC men murdered between 1916 and 1922.The RIC service record includes in each case the:-REGISTERED NUMBER, NAME, EXACT DATE OF BIRTH, AGE WHEN APPOINTED, HEIGHT, NATIVE COUNTY, RELIGION, MARRIAGE DATE, NATIVE COUNTY OF WIFE, BY WHOM RECOMMENDED, TRADE OR CALLING, APPOINTMENT DATE, ALLOCATIONS LIST, DATES OF SECONDMENT IN THE BRITISH ARMY, PROMOTION DATES, DATE WHEN PENSIONED, RESIGNED, DISCHARGED OR DEATH.It is my ambition to trace all policemen who served in Ireland before the foundation of the Irish Free State in 1922. I have approx. 100,000 Irish policemen in my databases. I have written a total of five books - four of which are on Irish policing. My first RIC book on policing is entitled "The Royal Irish Constabulary - A Short History & Genealogical Guide" (ISBN 1-85182-343-3). It was published in August 1997, already went into reprint in October 1997 and went into a third reprint in February 1999. As well as a history it opens up several avenues of further research on RIC ancestors and give you some idea what life was like in the RIC. It includes all 549 members of the RIC who were killed on duty between 1916 and 1922; all those granted the Constabulary Medal; those who served in WW1, with what regiment and the result of their service; those who transferred to the Garda Siochana in 1922 following disbandment of the RIC on 31st August 1922. It is available in Hardback and paperback; 254pp.My second book is entitled 'The Royal Irish Constabulary - A Complete Alphabetical List of Officers and Men, 1816-1922' (ISBN 1-85182-502-9). It was published in November 1999 and has just been reprinted in July 2000. It contains the Surnames, Christian Names and Registered Numbers of all 85,028 members of the RIC who served between 1816 and 1922; 488pp.My third book on policing is entitled "The Dublin Metropolitan Police - A Short History & Genealogical Guide".(ISBN 1-85182-462-6) hbk. and (ISBN 1-85182-463-4)pbk. Published in March 2001; 350pp.My fourth book is entitled 'The Dublin Metropolitan Police - A Complete Alphabetical List of Officers and Men, 1836-1925'. (ISBN 1-85182-601-7) hbk. also published in March 2001; 294pp. It contains the names of all 12,566 members of the DMP, arranged by Surname; Christian Name; Warrant Number; Birth Year; Native County; Native Parish; Death Year - in police service. It includes those who joined the DMP from the RIC;from the Irish Revenue Police (1832-1857); from the London Metropolitan Police; and those who transferred to the Garda Siochana on Amalgamation with the DMP in 1925. It includes members of the DMP who served in WW1 and the result of such service; those awarded the Kings Police Medal between 1909 and 1925; 294pp. The books can be obtained from:- Four Courts Press, Fumbally Lane, Dublin 8, Ireland. Tel.: International + 353-1-453-4668 Fax: International + 353-1-453-4672 Web: http://www.four-courts-press.ie E-mail: info@four-courts-press.ie The books can be ordered from Amazon over the internet. In North America the books are available from International Specialized Book Services, 5804, Hassalo Street, Portland, Oregon, USA. Tel. No. 1-800-944 6190; Fax No. (503) 280 8832; E-mail; orders@isbs.comI look forward to hearing from you.Regards,JIM HERLIHY 
 
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