Peter Carlos of Kilgefin
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Diane DonCarlos
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Peter Carlos of Kilgefin
Looking for info on Peter Carlos b abt 1809 Kilgefin, Cloonybeirne. He immigrated between 1834-1843.....before the famine. He settled in Wisconsin, (re) married and had 7 children. An ad in the Boston Pilot placed by Thomas Shaughnessy dated 1856 "looking for Peter Carlos, son-in-law from Kilgefin, last heard from in 1843, headed to Wisconsin". So, I am looking for the Shaughnessy girl he allegedly married. He had a son Michael born in Roscommon who came to Wisconsin in the 1860's, and is on the farm in 1870 census. Peter died in 1868. Can anyone help me figure out if Michael's mother is Shaughnessy? Did she die? Why did Peter come without them? I have lots of info on the family and Michael after they arrived in Wisconsin, but am at a dead end in Roscommon. No records in the Parish before 1860's. Since Peter left before 1843, I am also unable to make any definitive connections with data from Griffith's. Any info is greatly appreciated. Peter is my gggrandfather.
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John Hunter
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Diane,
See Roscommon Civil and Catholic parish maps
http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/MAPS/ros_par.html
http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/MAPS/ros_rcpar.html
Maybe you will find useful data if you visit www.familysearch.org/ and check the library catalogue film notes for LDS films 989745, 989747 and 989749.
The LDS British Isles Vital Records set of CDs list a number of baptisms for Michael Carlos. The following might be of interest (see the LDS film for names of sponsors and rarely name of townland):
CARLOS, Michaelem Christening, Gender: Male
Christening Date: 25 Sep 1835, Recorded in: Strokestown, Roscommon, Ireland,
Collection: Roman Catholic, Father: Petri CARLOS, Mother: Catherinae FLYNN,
Source: FHL Film 989745 Dates: 1830 – 1848
Note that entries extracted by the LDS are listed in either the IGI or the LDS British Isles Vital Records set of CDs, but not in both.
Maybe IGI expert Ed Gaffney will see this message and help you search the IGI www.familysearch.org/
From “The Diocese of Elphin”, by Fr. Francis Beirne, 2000.
“Prior to 1860 the (Catholic) parishes of Kilgefin and Cloontuskert were united with Kilbride”.
The LDS have filmed the parochial records for the following Catholic parishes:
The Catholic parish of Strokestown was formerly called Kiltrustan, Lissonuffy and Cloonfinlough. It included the civil parishes of Lissonuffy, Kiltrustan, Cloonfinlough and part of Bumlin. There were chapels at Strokestown and Scramogue in Bulmin, and in Kiltrustan.
LDS film 989745:
Baptisms, 1830-1835, 1850; marriages, 1830-1864; baptisms, 1835-1847 from Strokestown. -- Baptisms, 1831-1832, 1847, 1846; marriages, 1831-1833, 1835-1849 from Lisanuffy and Cloonfinlough with Strokestown. -- Baptisms, 1842, 1851-1864 from Kiltrustan with Strokestown. -- Baptisms, 1857-1862, 1864, 1857, 1845, 1857 from Strokestown. Not consecutive.
LDS film 989747
The Catholic parish of Ballagh (AKA Kilgefin) was formerly known as the parish of Cloontuskert, Kilgefin and Curraghroe. It includes the civil parishes of Kilgefin, Cloontuskert and Kilbride. There were chapels in the townlands of Ballagh and Ballyleague, and Four-mile House in Ballinderry. Curraghroe was head of a district which included the civil parishes of Lissonuffy, Clonfinlough and part of Brumlin. Chapels in that district were located in the townlands of Curraghroe in Lissonuffy parish and Carnaskeagh in Clonfinlough parish. Clontuskert and Clonthurskert are variant spellings.
Baptisms, 1874-1878; marriages, 1865-1879, 1888
FHL BRITISH Film 989749 Items 1 – 2.
Kilbride Catholic parish Baptisms 1835-1849; 1868-1881
LDS British Isles Vital Records CD includes Kilbride Catholic parish baptisms for 1880-1881 only.
Griffith’s Valuation data that may be of interest:
Surname, Given name, Civil parish, townland.
Shaughnessy Owen Kiltrustan Corskeagh
Shaughnessy William Kiltrustan Corskeagh
Shaughnessy Michael Kiltullagh Cloonfad East
Shaughnessy John Lissonuffy Coggalmore
Shaughnessy Michael Lissonuffy Coggalmore
Shaughnessy Thomas Lissonuffy Coggalmore
Shaughnessy John Lissonuffy Coggalstack
Shaughnessy Wm. Lissonuffy Coggalstack
Carlos Luke Bumlin Culliagh Lower
Carlos Patrick Bumlin Culliagh Lower
Carlos Patrick Bumlin Culliagh Upper
Carlos Edward Bumlin Lisroyne. Strokestown Town (part of). Elphin Street
Carlos Charles Cloonfinlough Clare
Carlos Michael Cloonfinlough Clare
Carlos Michael Cloonfinlough Clooncah
Carlos Michael Cloonfinlough Clooncah
Carlos Charles Cloonfinlough Cloonerra
Carlos Michael Cloonfinlough Cloonerra
Carlos Charles Cloonfinlough Cloonfree
Carlos Michael Cloonfinlough Cloonylyon
Carlos Charles Kilbride Cappagh
Carlos Charles Kilbride Cloonelly
Carlos John Kilglass Ballyfeeny
Carlos John Kilglass Ballyfeeny
Carlos John junior Kilglass Ballyfeeny
Carlos Patrick Kilglass Ballyfeeny
Carlos Michael Kilglass Culleennaghamore
Carlos Michael Killukin Carrownvally
Carlos Mary Killukin Cloonsreane
Carlos Michael Kiltrustan Doonard More
Carlos William Lissonuffy Ashbrook or Knocknabarnaboy
Carlos James Lissonuffy Cloonycarran More
Carlos James Lissonuffy Cloonycarran More
Carlos Mary Lissonuffy Cloonycarran More
Carlos Thomas Lissonuffy Cloonycarran More
Carlos James Lissonuffy Coggalfortyacres
Carlos Patrick Lissonuffy Coggalkeenagh
Carlos John Lissonuffy Coggaltonroe
Carlos Luke Lissonuffy Coggaltonroe
Carlos Patrick Lissonuffy Curraghduffy
Carlos William Lissonuffy Knocknabarnaboy or Ashbrook
Carlos James Lissonuffy Lismeehy
Carlos James Lissonuffy Lismeehy
Carlos Patrick Lissonuffy Lissonuffy
Carlos Patrick Lissonuffy Lissonuffy
Carlos William Lissonuffy Lissonuffy
Carlos Charles Bumlin Lisroyne. Strokestown Town. Elphin Street
Flynn James Lissonuffy Culleenanory
Flynn John Lissonuffy Drinagh
Flynn Michael Lissonuffy Drinagh
I am researching Connor and Heyden from Lissonuffy Civil parish
John
See Roscommon Civil and Catholic parish maps
http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/MAPS/ros_par.html
http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/MAPS/ros_rcpar.html
Maybe you will find useful data if you visit www.familysearch.org/ and check the library catalogue film notes for LDS films 989745, 989747 and 989749.
The LDS British Isles Vital Records set of CDs list a number of baptisms for Michael Carlos. The following might be of interest (see the LDS film for names of sponsors and rarely name of townland):
CARLOS, Michaelem Christening, Gender: Male
Christening Date: 25 Sep 1835, Recorded in: Strokestown, Roscommon, Ireland,
Collection: Roman Catholic, Father: Petri CARLOS, Mother: Catherinae FLYNN,
Source: FHL Film 989745 Dates: 1830 – 1848
Note that entries extracted by the LDS are listed in either the IGI or the LDS British Isles Vital Records set of CDs, but not in both.
Maybe IGI expert Ed Gaffney will see this message and help you search the IGI www.familysearch.org/
From “The Diocese of Elphin”, by Fr. Francis Beirne, 2000.
“Prior to 1860 the (Catholic) parishes of Kilgefin and Cloontuskert were united with Kilbride”.
The LDS have filmed the parochial records for the following Catholic parishes:
The Catholic parish of Strokestown was formerly called Kiltrustan, Lissonuffy and Cloonfinlough. It included the civil parishes of Lissonuffy, Kiltrustan, Cloonfinlough and part of Bumlin. There were chapels at Strokestown and Scramogue in Bulmin, and in Kiltrustan.
LDS film 989745:
Baptisms, 1830-1835, 1850; marriages, 1830-1864; baptisms, 1835-1847 from Strokestown. -- Baptisms, 1831-1832, 1847, 1846; marriages, 1831-1833, 1835-1849 from Lisanuffy and Cloonfinlough with Strokestown. -- Baptisms, 1842, 1851-1864 from Kiltrustan with Strokestown. -- Baptisms, 1857-1862, 1864, 1857, 1845, 1857 from Strokestown. Not consecutive.
LDS film 989747
The Catholic parish of Ballagh (AKA Kilgefin) was formerly known as the parish of Cloontuskert, Kilgefin and Curraghroe. It includes the civil parishes of Kilgefin, Cloontuskert and Kilbride. There were chapels in the townlands of Ballagh and Ballyleague, and Four-mile House in Ballinderry. Curraghroe was head of a district which included the civil parishes of Lissonuffy, Clonfinlough and part of Brumlin. Chapels in that district were located in the townlands of Curraghroe in Lissonuffy parish and Carnaskeagh in Clonfinlough parish. Clontuskert and Clonthurskert are variant spellings.
Baptisms, 1874-1878; marriages, 1865-1879, 1888
FHL BRITISH Film 989749 Items 1 – 2.
Kilbride Catholic parish Baptisms 1835-1849; 1868-1881
LDS British Isles Vital Records CD includes Kilbride Catholic parish baptisms for 1880-1881 only.
Griffith’s Valuation data that may be of interest:
Surname, Given name, Civil parish, townland.
Shaughnessy Owen Kiltrustan Corskeagh
Shaughnessy William Kiltrustan Corskeagh
Shaughnessy Michael Kiltullagh Cloonfad East
Shaughnessy John Lissonuffy Coggalmore
Shaughnessy Michael Lissonuffy Coggalmore
Shaughnessy Thomas Lissonuffy Coggalmore
Shaughnessy John Lissonuffy Coggalstack
Shaughnessy Wm. Lissonuffy Coggalstack
Carlos Luke Bumlin Culliagh Lower
Carlos Patrick Bumlin Culliagh Lower
Carlos Patrick Bumlin Culliagh Upper
Carlos Edward Bumlin Lisroyne. Strokestown Town (part of). Elphin Street
Carlos Charles Cloonfinlough Clare
Carlos Michael Cloonfinlough Clare
Carlos Michael Cloonfinlough Clooncah
Carlos Michael Cloonfinlough Clooncah
Carlos Charles Cloonfinlough Cloonerra
Carlos Michael Cloonfinlough Cloonerra
Carlos Charles Cloonfinlough Cloonfree
Carlos Michael Cloonfinlough Cloonylyon
Carlos Charles Kilbride Cappagh
Carlos Charles Kilbride Cloonelly
Carlos John Kilglass Ballyfeeny
Carlos John Kilglass Ballyfeeny
Carlos John junior Kilglass Ballyfeeny
Carlos Patrick Kilglass Ballyfeeny
Carlos Michael Kilglass Culleennaghamore
Carlos Michael Killukin Carrownvally
Carlos Mary Killukin Cloonsreane
Carlos Michael Kiltrustan Doonard More
Carlos William Lissonuffy Ashbrook or Knocknabarnaboy
Carlos James Lissonuffy Cloonycarran More
Carlos James Lissonuffy Cloonycarran More
Carlos Mary Lissonuffy Cloonycarran More
Carlos Thomas Lissonuffy Cloonycarran More
Carlos James Lissonuffy Coggalfortyacres
Carlos Patrick Lissonuffy Coggalkeenagh
Carlos John Lissonuffy Coggaltonroe
Carlos Luke Lissonuffy Coggaltonroe
Carlos Patrick Lissonuffy Curraghduffy
Carlos William Lissonuffy Knocknabarnaboy or Ashbrook
Carlos James Lissonuffy Lismeehy
Carlos James Lissonuffy Lismeehy
Carlos Patrick Lissonuffy Lissonuffy
Carlos Patrick Lissonuffy Lissonuffy
Carlos William Lissonuffy Lissonuffy
Carlos Charles Bumlin Lisroyne. Strokestown Town. Elphin Street
Flynn James Lissonuffy Culleenanory
Flynn John Lissonuffy Drinagh
Flynn Michael Lissonuffy Drinagh
I am researching Connor and Heyden from Lissonuffy Civil parish
John
Beirne, Byrne, Connor, Hedian, Moraghan, Nerney. Hunter, Gildea, Kildea
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Mike Lennon
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Hello Diane
You mentioned Cloonybeirne as the townland where Peter Carlos was born. However, the Boston Pilot index site www.infowanted.bc.edu gives the townland as Cloonybarron. I reckon the townland is actually Cloonycarran in Lissonuffy parish where 4 Carlos names appear in the Griffiths list supplied by John Hunter. Cloonycarran borders Kilgefin parish, which might explain the Boston Pilot listing. The distance between the Shaughnessys of Coggalmore and Coggalstack and the Carlos families of Cloonycarron is about 1 mile - so it is quite possible that Peter had married a Shaughnessy girl.
My theory is that she died after their son, Michael, was born and Peter went to the U.S. leaving the baby to be reared by the Shaughnessy grandparents. The reason for The Boston Pilot query by Thomas Shaughnessy in 1855 may have been to locate Peter so that Michael could join him in America. It seems that the advert. was successful since Michael shows up in the 1870 census with his step-mother and step-siblings. The Kentucky address probably belonged to a relative of Thomas Shaughnessy and was given as a contact point for responses.
The Catholic birth and marriage records for Lissonuffy (which were microfilmed as part of Strokestown parish) date back to 1830. You may be lucky and find either a Carlos/Shaughnessy marriage or the birth of Michael Carlos if you can get a hold of that particular LDS microfilm, as advised by John Hunter.
Best of luck in your quest.
Mike Lennon (a descendant of the Shaughnessys of Coggalmore)
You mentioned Cloonybeirne as the townland where Peter Carlos was born. However, the Boston Pilot index site www.infowanted.bc.edu gives the townland as Cloonybarron. I reckon the townland is actually Cloonycarran in Lissonuffy parish where 4 Carlos names appear in the Griffiths list supplied by John Hunter. Cloonycarran borders Kilgefin parish, which might explain the Boston Pilot listing. The distance between the Shaughnessys of Coggalmore and Coggalstack and the Carlos families of Cloonycarron is about 1 mile - so it is quite possible that Peter had married a Shaughnessy girl.
My theory is that she died after their son, Michael, was born and Peter went to the U.S. leaving the baby to be reared by the Shaughnessy grandparents. The reason for The Boston Pilot query by Thomas Shaughnessy in 1855 may have been to locate Peter so that Michael could join him in America. It seems that the advert. was successful since Michael shows up in the 1870 census with his step-mother and step-siblings. The Kentucky address probably belonged to a relative of Thomas Shaughnessy and was given as a contact point for responses.
The Catholic birth and marriage records for Lissonuffy (which were microfilmed as part of Strokestown parish) date back to 1830. You may be lucky and find either a Carlos/Shaughnessy marriage or the birth of Michael Carlos if you can get a hold of that particular LDS microfilm, as advised by John Hunter.
Best of luck in your quest.
Mike Lennon (a descendant of the Shaughnessys of Coggalmore)