Hello, I live in Jimboomba, Queensland, Australia & am looking for family connections to my O'DONNELL family. My great grandfather John O'DONNELL came to Queensland in the late 1870s early 1880s as he married Catherine (Kate) HICK on 3rd December 1881 at Rockhampton, Queensland, & on his marriage cert states his father as Eugene O'DONNELL -farmer & mother Caroline Rogers, birth place Dromo---Leitrim, Ireland. Then on his death cert 1904, age 53 yrs father John O'DONNELL -farmer, mother Ann Rodgers buried Mt Morgan Cemetery,born Liscommon Leitrim Ireland & 29 yrs in Australia. The marriage produced a large family ages from 21yrs to one year old twins, when he died. I'm hoping some one knows this family.
Regards Joan B
John O'DONNELL came to Queensland Australia
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John Hunter
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Owen, Eugene and John are related names.
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http://www.magoo.com/hugh/origin2.html
for Eugene
Two extracts:
Another dictionary of Ancient Irish Proper Names (from O'Hart) says:
"Eoghan signifies "a young man," or "youthful warrior" and as a personal name has been anglicised Eugene and Owen."
"The confusing history of true Irish names versus adoptions from other languages or English translations is clearly demonstrated by the confusion over the name of Owen. Eoghan, which in Gaeilge is pronounced Owen, is an ancient and common Irish name that was eventually perverted to Eugene in the English language and Owen, a name entirely Welsh. The Irish were encouraged to use the English name of John, which was gaelicized to Seán (pronounced Shawn) and Eoin (pronounced Owen).
"Dromo..." may be the Catholic parish of Drumshanbo.
Liscommon may be the townland of Lisconor
Look at the 1901 Census on the L-R website for Owen O'Donnell.
Good luck in your research.
John
Search
http://www.magoo.com/hugh/origin2.html
for Eugene
Two extracts:
Another dictionary of Ancient Irish Proper Names (from O'Hart) says:
"Eoghan signifies "a young man," or "youthful warrior" and as a personal name has been anglicised Eugene and Owen."
"The confusing history of true Irish names versus adoptions from other languages or English translations is clearly demonstrated by the confusion over the name of Owen. Eoghan, which in Gaeilge is pronounced Owen, is an ancient and common Irish name that was eventually perverted to Eugene in the English language and Owen, a name entirely Welsh. The Irish were encouraged to use the English name of John, which was gaelicized to Seán (pronounced Shawn) and Eoin (pronounced Owen).
"Dromo..." may be the Catholic parish of Drumshanbo.
Liscommon may be the townland of Lisconor
Look at the 1901 Census on the L-R website for Owen O'Donnell.
Good luck in your research.
John
My Great - Great Grandfather was a John O'Donnell who emigrated from Ireland to Australia. He married a Catherine Hicks and together they had 14 children, one of whom was my Great Grandmother Elizabeth (b. 1903). Elizabeth was a twin. (Sadly her twin brother died in an accident at a young age). The family lived at Mt. Morgan.
I am also searching for family history information.
I am also searching for family history information.
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Jim Irvine
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You give Dromo… as the home townland. This could well be Dromore, in Cloone Civil parish (Aughavas RC parish)
The Aughavas RC parish records show Owen O’Donnell married Anne Rodgers on 23rd Nov 1848.
The same records show baptisms for three children of the family Catherine (6th Dec 1849), John (9th Jan 1851) and Patrick (30th Oct 1852). Unfortunately the Aughavas parish records, unlike the adjoining Cloone RC parish, do not give the townland of the family.
The 1901 Census for Dromore show two O’Donnell’s in Dromore – Patrick (aged 50) and Michael aged 45.
Personally I think the combination of
Dromo… = Dromore and
Owen/Rodgers and
John baptised 1851
Is almost irresistible. I think these are probably your family.
In Griffith’s Valuation c. 1857 Owen O’Donnell had two large pieces of land with houses in Dromore.
Unfortunately the situation is much less clear in the 1830’s with the Tithe Books. There is no O’Donnell holding land in Dromore although there is an Owen at Corraneary and a John at Lisgillock, neither of which are very far away and a John at Esker, a bit further away.
From the evidence of my own family there does seem to have been a fair bit of moving around of families. Often a son would go and live with his in-laws and inherit their land.
Hope this is of help
The Aughavas RC parish records show Owen O’Donnell married Anne Rodgers on 23rd Nov 1848.
The same records show baptisms for three children of the family Catherine (6th Dec 1849), John (9th Jan 1851) and Patrick (30th Oct 1852). Unfortunately the Aughavas parish records, unlike the adjoining Cloone RC parish, do not give the townland of the family.
The 1901 Census for Dromore show two O’Donnell’s in Dromore – Patrick (aged 50) and Michael aged 45.
Personally I think the combination of
Dromo… = Dromore and
Owen/Rodgers and
John baptised 1851
Is almost irresistible. I think these are probably your family.
In Griffith’s Valuation c. 1857 Owen O’Donnell had two large pieces of land with houses in Dromore.
Unfortunately the situation is much less clear in the 1830’s with the Tithe Books. There is no O’Donnell holding land in Dromore although there is an Owen at Corraneary and a John at Lisgillock, neither of which are very far away and a John at Esker, a bit further away.
From the evidence of my own family there does seem to have been a fair bit of moving around of families. Often a son would go and live with his in-laws and inherit their land.
Hope this is of help