Geographical limits of Major Mahon's estate??

Hugh Doyle · Post by **Hugh Doyle** » Sat Jul 18, 1998 5:19 pm

Is there a listing of the townlands that were considered part of Major Mahon's Strokestown Estate? My ancestors lived in the townland of Ballybroghan, and I'm trying to determine if they were part of the mass eviction. Thanks,........Hugh Doyle.
 
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Mary Lee Dunn · Post by **Mary Lee Dunn** » Sat Jul 18, 1998 8:17 pm

(User Above) wrote: : Is there a listing of the townlands that were considered part of Major Mahon's Strokestown Estate? My ancestors lived in the townland of Ballybroghan, and I'm trying to determine if they were part of the mass eviction. Thanks,........Hugh Doyle.Hi, Hugh, I asked at the Famine Museum several years ago go for such a list but none was available. They told me then that the estate covered several hundred townlands. I do have a copy of the Bishop of Elphin's letter to The Freeman's Journal in April 1848 which lists the evicted heads of household by townland. (I asked the Heritage Center for a copy of it.) The identified townlands are: Upper and Lower Cullagh, Gurthuse, Mahon's Yard, Cardrummin, Goreygloss, Kilnordan More, Scramogue, Mulliviltrin, Castlenade, Newtown, Farnbeg (Strokestown), Church-street (Strokestown), Kildologue, Cregga, Lugboy, Tully Cartron, Clooney Brennan, Cloonraine, Tooreen, Kilmacnaneny, Curhownaugh, Aughadine, Cloonslanard, Ballyhabert, Ballinafad, Lackin, and Tully. I have not seen some of these townland names elsewhere and would guess that some of them are outside of Kilglass Parish. The eviction affected 3,006 people, 84 widows, and 605 families. A note to the newspaper table summarizing the evictions adds, "There were far a greater number of widows ejected than those marked out here. There can be no less than 150 widows, with their wretched families, most of whom have since perished." The bishop also notes, "It may be said that many of the families specified emigrated voluntarily to America ... " He then discourses on the degrees of "volunteerism." I hope this helps. E-mail me if you want more. Mary Lee Dunn

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Peter Rourke · Post by **Peter Rourke** » Sat Jul 18, 1998 11:10 pm

Hi There Mary Do you think that the GURTHUSE referred to in the Bishop's letter might be the GORTTOOSE that I am looking for?Regards Peter Rourke The identified townlands are: Upper and Lower Cullagh, Gurthuse, Mahon's Yard, Cardrummin, Goreygloss, Kilnordan More, Scramogue, Mulliviltrin, Castlenade, Newtown, Farnbeg (Strokestown), Church-street (Strokestown), Kildologue, Cregga, Lugboy, Tully Cartron, Clooney Brennan, Cloonraine, Tooreen, Kilmacnaneny, Curhownaugh, Aughadine, Cloonslanard, Ballyhabert, Ballinafad, Lackin, and Tully. : I have not seen some of these townland names elsewhere and would guess that some of them are outside of Kilglass Parish. : The eviction affected 3,006 people, 84 widows, and 605 families. A note to the newspaper table summarizing the evictions adds, "There were far a greater number of widows ejected than those marked out here. There can be no less than 150 widows, with their wretched families, most of whom have since perished." : The bishop also notes, "It may be said that many of the families specified emigrated voluntarily to America ... " He then discourses on the degrees of "volunteerism." : I hope this helps. E-mail me if you want more. : Mary Lee Dunn
 
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Mary Lee Dunn · Post by **Mary Lee Dunn** » Sun Jul 19, 1998 8:09 am

Peter, My bet is that it is the same place. And I think some of these evictees were sent to Canada on "coffin ships" and arrived at Grosse Isle. Early this week, at the web site of The Irish at Home and Abroad (www.ihaonline.com), I found a description of a book that lists more than 8,000 people who died there or on ships bound there. Yesterday, I ordered the book whose title is "A Register of Deceased Persons at Sea and on Grosse Ile in 1847" by Andre Charbonneau and Doris Drolet Dube. When it arrives, I expect to find a number of Kilglass names on those lists. The book is available in English for about $20, including mailing, from the Canadian Government Publishing Center, Ottawa, ON, K1A 0S9, tel 819-956-4800. I'll let you know what I find. Mary Lee Dunn : Hi There Mary : Do you think that the GURTHUSE referred to in the Bishop's letter might be the GORTTOOSE that I am looking for?: Regards : Peter Rourke: : The identified townlands are: Upper and Lower Cullagh, Gurthuse, Mahon's Yard, Cardrummin, Goreygloss, Kilnordan More, Scramogue, Mulliviltrin, Castlenade, Newtown, Farnbeg (Strokestown), Church-street (Strokestown), Kildologue, Cregga, Lugboy, Tully Cartron, Clooney Brennan, Cloonraine, Tooreen, Kilmacnaneny, Curhownaugh, Aughadine, Cloonslanard, Ballyhabert, Ballinafad, Lackin, and Tully. : : I have not seen some of these townland names elsewhere and would guess that some of them are outside of Kilglass Parish. : : The eviction affected 3,006 people, 84 widows, and 605 families. A note to the newspaper table summarizing the evictions adds, "There were far a greater number of widows ejected than those marked out here. There can be no less than 150 widows, with their wretched families, most of whom have since perished." : : The bishop also notes, "It may be said that many of the families specified emigrated voluntarily to America ... " He then discourses on the degrees of "volunteerism." : : I hope this helps. E-mail me if you want more. : : Mary Lee Dunn
 
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Hugh Doyle · Post by **Hugh Doyle** » Sun Jul 19, 1998 11:00 pm

(User Above) wrote: : : Is there a listing of the townlands that were considered part of Major Mahon's Strokestown Estate? My ancestors lived in the townland of Ballybroghan, and I'm trying to determine if they were part of the mass eviction. Thanks,........Hugh Doyle.: Hi, Hugh, : I asked at the Famine Museum several years ago go for such a list but none was available. They told me then that the estate covered several hundred townlands. : I do have a copy of the Bishop of Elphin's letter to The Freeman's Journal in April 1848 which lists the evicted heads of household by townland. (I asked the Heritage Center for a copy of it.) The identified townlands are: Upper and Lower Cullagh, Gurthuse, Mahon's Yard, Cardrummin, Goreygloss, Kilnordan More, Scramogue, Mulliviltrin, Castlenade, Newtown, Farnbeg (Strokestown), Church-street (Strokestown), Kildologue, Cregga, Lugboy, Tully Cartron, Clooney Brennan, Cloonraine, Tooreen, Kilmacnaneny, Curhownaugh, Aughadine, Cloonslanard, Ballyhabert, Ballinafad, Lackin, and Tully. : I have not seen some of these townland names elsewhere and would guess that some of them are outside of Kilglass Parish. : The eviction affected 3,006 people, 84 widows, and 605 families. A note to the newspaper table summarizing the evictions adds, "There were far a greater number of widows ejected than those marked out here. There can be no less than 150 widows, with their wretched families, most of whom have since perished." : The bishop also notes, "It may be said that many of the families specified emigrated voluntarily to America ... " He then discourses on the degrees of "volunteerism." : I hope this helps. E-mail me if you want more. : Mary Lee DunnHello Mary, I can't thank you enough for all your information! Using the "Ordnance Survey" map of Roscommon, I was able to easily locate four of the townlands in your list (Castlenade, Kilmacnaneny, Kilnordan More {spelled "Killinordan" on the O.S. Map}, and Scramogue.) It appears Mahon's Strokestown Estate was located in the hills to the east and south of Strokestown proper. I also discovered that my g-g-g-granfather's townland, Ballybroghan, is west of Strokestown, about a mile and a half southeast of Tulsk, in the Civil Parish of Kilcooley. Thanks again for your help! All the best,.........Hugh Doyle <hdoyle@wsii.com>

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Gus Ellis · Post by **Gus Ellis** » Tue Jul 21, 1998 12:38 am

: : Do you think that the GURTHUSE referred to in the Bishop's letter might be the GORTTOOSE that I am looking for?: : Regards : : Peter RourkeLook at the thread below on Maps & Books and try the following URL http://www.ilstu.edu/~ceorser/fieldsch.html Gus
 
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