Parishes of Killukin,Killumod,Ballinameen.

Bernard Burke · Post by **Bernard Burke** » Fri Dec 21, 2001 6:39 pm

I have read of evictions of tenant farmers at Ballykilcline in the 1830's and 1840's and the battles which took place between tenants and police and soldiers. Did any similar events take place in the abovementioned parishes. I have records of christenings etc of my Burke ancestors up until the 1830's but then there is a gap until they emigrated to Australia in 1864. Maybe they were caught up in the events in Ballykilcline and were evicted also. Any information would be appreciated.
 
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Ann O'Rorke · Post by **Ann O'Rorke** » Wed Dec 26, 2001 6:43 am

(User Above) wrote: : I have read of evictions of tenant farmers at Ballykilcline in the 1830's and 1840's and the battles which took place between tenants and police and soldiers. Did any similar events take place in the abovementioned parishes. I have records of christenings etc of my Burke ancestors up until the 1830's but then there is a gap until they emigrated to Australia in 1864. Maybe they were caught up in the events in Ballykilcline and were evicted also. Any information would be appreciated.Where is Ballimeenan and is there a parish church Cheers ann

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Mary Lee Dunn · Post by **Mary Lee Dunn** » Thu Dec 27, 2001 4:40 pm

(User Above) wrote: : : I have read of evictions of tenant farmers at Ballykilcline in the 1830's and 1840's and the battles which took place between tenants and police and soldiers. Did any similar events take place in the abovementioned parishes. I have records of christenings etc of my Burke ancestors up until the 1830's but then there is a gap until they emigrated to Australia in 1864. Maybe they were caught up in the events in Ballykilcline and were evicted also. Any information would be appreciated.: Where is Ballimeenan and is there a parish church Cheers ann Hi, Bernard and Ann, There were other local rent strikes in the area in the 1840s, apparently in imitation of the one in Ballykilcline, a development that had worried officials sufficiently enough that the Lord Lieutentant of Ireland got involved in trying to end the strike in Ballykilcline. The earliest reference to a Roscommon rent action that I have found concerned disturbances in Gillstown and Ashbrook, both near Strokestown, in Spring 1834 in which some people called for rent actions. Those disturbances occurred just before or just as the Ballykilcline strike began. In the mid 1840s, as Robert Scally says in The End of Hidden Ireland, there were strikes, or combinations, against these Roscommon landlords: Rev. Lloyd at Carrick-on-Shannon, Denis Mahon of Strokestown, Mr. Blakeney, Mr. Balfe, and Patrick Browne, the brother of the Bishop of Elphin. I don't know, however, where these other tenants who withheld their rents were located or how long or difficult those strikes were. They may well have dissipated in the social chaos after November 1847 when the district was proclaimed in the wake of the murders of Denis Mahon and the Rev. John Lloyd. When Rev. Lloyd was shot at Lissavilla near Elphin that November, it was said that it was because he had previously evicted tenants at Caldra. The 1820s to '40s was a very hard time in Roscommon. Migration increased accordingly. There was great competition for land, and landlords sometimes offered small incentives for tenants to clear out. During the Famine, for instance, some of Denis Mahon's tenants took small amounts to leave and went to Scotland. It sounds like you have read Scally's book. You may want to read Anne Coleman's book, Riotous Roscommon, as well. It's possible that your folks emigrated to Scotland or England for a time before taking ship for Australia in the 1860s. Many people in a swath of Roscommon from Kilglass to the western border, through the north central area, were seasonal migrants to England, and sometimes Scotland, so they were familiar with those countries. Two books discuss those seasonal harvesters: one by Ruth-Ann Harris called The Nearest Place That Wasn't Ireland, the other by Anne O'Dowd called Spalpeens and Tattie Hokers. Ann -- Ballinameen is a townland not far from Elphin. The local church is St. Attracta's. Good luck in your searches and Happy New Year. Mary Lee Dunn

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Ann O'Rorke · Post by **Ann O'Rorke** » Sat Jan 26, 2002 2:40 am

(User Above) wrote: : : : I have read of evictions of tenant farmers at Ballykilcline in the 1830's and 1840's and the battles which took place between tenants and police and soldiers. Did any similar events take place in the abovementioned parishes. I have records of christenings etc of my Burke ancestors up until the 1830's but then there is a gap until they emigrated to Australia in 1864. Maybe they were caught up in the events in Ballykilcline and were evicted also. Any information would be appreciated.: : Where is Ballimeenan and is there a parish church Cheers ann: : Hi, Bernard and Ann, : There were other local rent strikes in the area in the 1840s, apparently in imitation of the one in Ballykilcline, a development that had worried officials sufficiently enough that the Lord Lieutentant of Ireland got involved in trying to end the strike in Ballykilcline. : The earliest reference to a Roscommon rent action that I have found concerned disturbances in Gillstown and Ashbrook, both near Strokestown, in Spring 1834 in which some people called for rent actions. Those disturbances occurred just before or just as the Ballykilcline strike began. : In the mid 1840s, as Robert Scally says in The End of Hidden Ireland, there were strikes, or combinations, against these Roscommon landlords: Rev. Lloyd at Carrick-on-Shannon, Denis Mahon of Strokestown, Mr. Blakeney, Mr. Balfe, and Patrick Browne, the brother of the Bishop of Elphin. I don't know, however, where these other tenants who withheld their rents were located or how long or difficult those strikes were. They may well have dissipated in the social chaos after November 1847 when the district was proclaimed in the wake of the murders of Denis Mahon and the Rev. John Lloyd. : When Rev. Lloyd was shot at Lissavilla near Elphin that November, it was said that it was because he had previously evicted tenants at Caldra. : The 1820s to '40s was a very hard time in Roscommon. Migration increased accordingly. There was great competition for land, and landlords sometimes offered small incentives for tenants to clear out. During the Famine, for instance, some of Denis Mahon's tenants took small amounts to leave and went to Scotland. It sounds like you have read Scally's book. You may want to read Anne Coleman's book, Riotous Roscommon, as well. : It's possible that your folks emigrated to Scotland or England for a time before taking ship for Australia in the 1860s. Many people in a swath of Roscommon from Kilglass to the western border, through the north central area, were seasonal migrants to England, and sometimes Scotland, so they were familiar with those countries. Two books discuss those seasonal harvesters: one by Ruth-Ann Harris called The Nearest Place That Wasn't Ireland, the other by Anne O'Dowd called Spalpeens and Tattie Hokers. : Ann -- Ballinameen is a townland not far from Elphin. The local church is St. Attracta's. : Good luck in your searches and Happy New Year. : Mary Lee DunnThank you for your info on Ballinmeen and St. Attracta's - does this church have a Parish Priest? or cemetery to your knowledge? Cheers ann

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