Beirne and Dunne, Roscommon and Leitrim c.1860

[Kenneth]

Have just found out I have been barking a bit up the wrong family tree. I am looking for info about g-grandparents, Patrick Beirne and Catherine Dunne(had thought it was Michael Beirne, which shows how much you can rely on oral tradition!), apparently married around 1850's, had my grandfather, Bernard Beirne in September 1868, and other children Martin D.(b. 1860), Michael and Alyce. Family is supposed to have lived in/near Frenchpark, Co. Roscommon, but Bernard's birth is apparently listed in Jamestown, Co. Leitrim. Finally found some documents on this, so am now looking for possible Dunne contacts as well as Beirnes. No info yet on any siblings of Patrick and Catherine.
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[Mary Lee Dunn]

: Have just found out I have been barking a bit up the wrong family tree. I am looking for info about g-grandparents, Patrick Beirne and Catherine Dunne(had thought it was Michael Beirne, which shows how much you can rely on oral tradition!), apparently married around 1850's, had my grandfather, Bernard Beirne in September 1868, and other children Martin D.(b. 1860), Michael and Alyce. Family is supposed to have lived in/near Frenchpark, Co. Roscommon, but Bernard's birth is apparently listed in Jamestown, Co. Leitrim. Finally found some documents on this, so am now looking for possible Dunne contacts as well as Beirnes. No info yet on any siblings of Patrick and Catherine.<p>Hi, Ken,<br> The use of the names Martin, Michael, and Bernard by your Beirnes interests me. My Beirnes used those same names. My immigrant was John, son of Martin and Rose, from in or near Elphin. He emigrated in 1845. He married Bridget Kenny, also from the Elphin area, and their sons were Martin, Michael, and John. His sister named a son Bernard. Are there any women named Rose in your Beirne family?<br> Mary Lee Dunn<br>(PS FYI, my Dunn surname is from a Kildare line.) <br>

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MaryLDunn@aol.com

[Ken Beirne]

<br>: Hi, Ken,<br>: The use of the names Martin, Michael, and Bernard by your Beirnes interests me. My Beirnes used those same names. My immigrant was John, son of Martin and Rose, from in or near Elphin. He emigrated in 1845. He married Bridget Kenny, also from the Elphin area, and their sons were Martin, Michael, and John. His sister named a son Bernard. Are there any women named Rose in your Beirne family?<br>: Mary Lee Dunn<br>: (PS FYI, my Dunn surname is from a Kildare line.)<p>Hi Mary Lee,<p>It sounds like your Beirnes emigrated somewhat before mine. Bernard, Michael, and Martin, all apparently born between 1860 and 1870 or so(though I do not have a clear hold on Michael's b-day) emigrated in the 1890's. So any links would probably have to be around Patrick's generation(probably born 1830-40) or even earlier. I assume that is about the time Catherine Dunn(e)(have both spellings -- of course! -- in documents) would have been born also. Bernard indicates he was born in Kilmore, Co. Roscommon, which I have been advised was in the registrar's area for Jamestown, Co. Leitrim. At this point I haven't narrowed things any more, since my relatives apparently were document-phobic and it took me the better part of two years to track down death records. <br> I have to go play with the maps a little, to see where I am on this, but if you have any guesses on the Dunns, who are all new to me now, it would be a great help also<br>
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kjbeirne@mindspring.com

[Sean O'Beirne]

: <br>: : Hi, Ken,<br>: : The use of the names Martin, Michael, and Bernard by your Beirnes interests me. My Beirnes used those same names. My immigrant was John, son of Martin and Rose, from in or near Elphin. He emigrated in 1845. He married Bridget Kenny, also from the Elphin area, and their sons were Martin, Michael, and John. His sister named a son Bernard. Are there any women named Rose in your Beirne family?<br>: : Mary Lee Dunn<br>: : (PS FYI, my Dunn surname is from a Kildare line.)<p>: Hi Mary Lee,<p>: It sounds like your Beirnes emigrated somewhat before mine. Bernard, Michael, and Martin, all apparently born between 1860 and 1870 or so(though I do not have a clear hold on Michael's b-day) emigrated in the 1890's. So any links would probably have to be around Patrick's generation(probably born 1830-40) or even earlier. I assume that is about the time Catherine Dunn(e)(have both spellings -- of course! -- in documents) would have been born also. Bernard indicates he was born in Kilmore, Co. Roscommon, which I have been advised was in the registrar's area for Jamestown, Co. Leitrim. At this point I haven't narrowed things any more, since my relatives apparently were document-phobic and it took me the better part of two years to track down death records. <br>: I have to go play with the maps a little, to see where I am on this, but if you have any guesses on the Dunns, who are all new to me now, it would be a great help also<p><br>I hope that all readers of this exchange will check out the O'Beirne Family pages at www.obeirnefamily.mcmail.com<br>

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Tulskone@aol.com

[William O'Beirne]

: <br>: : Hi, Ken,<br>: : The use of the names Martin, Michael, and Bernard by your Beirnes interests me. My Beirnes used those same names. My immigrant was John, son of Martin and Rose, from in or near Elphin. He emigrated in 1845. He married Bridget Kenny, also from the Elphin area, and their sons were Martin, Michael, and John. His sister named a son Bernard. Are there any women named Rose in your Beirne family?<br>: : Mary Lee Dunn<br>: : (PS FYI, my Dunn surname is from a Kildare line.)<p>: Hi Mary Lee,<p>: It sounds like your Beirnes emigrated somewhat before mine. Bernard, Michael, and Martin, all apparently born between 1860 and 1870 or so(though I do not have a clear hold on Michael's b-day) emigrated in the 1890's. So any links would probably have to be around Patrick's generation(probably born 1830-40) or even earlier. I assume that is about the time Catherine Dunn(e)(have both spellings -- of course! -- in documents) would have been born also. Bernard indicates he was born in Kilmore, Co. Roscommon, which I have been advised was in the registrar's area for Jamestown, Co. Leitrim. At this point I haven't narrowed things any more, since my relatives apparently were document-phobic and it took me the better part of two years to track down death records. <br>: I have to go play with the maps a little, to see where I am on this, but if you have any guesses on the Dunns, who are all new to me now, it would be a great help also<p>Ken and Mary:<p>Similar names pop up in and around those times in my past. I apparently have a relationship with the Dunnes. There is a very nice pice written by my eldest sister about her trip to find her roots in "The O'Beirne Family Joural" (http://www.obeirnefamily.mcmail.com/issue2.htm) entitled <br>"Pilgrimage to my Roots in Lisonuffy". There is a Michael and and a Bernard but the parents seem to have different names. None-the-less, the relationship to the Dunnes seems interesting. Take a look at my sisters article. It may trigger something for one of you. Keep in touch.

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wojazz3@yahoo.com

[Tom]

: Mary Lee:<p>I read with interest your comments below. I have just started tracing my family which was spelled "Kenny" before immigrating to the US (subsequenty changed to "Kenney"). I have relatives from Elphin and infact visited them a few years back. The interesting point is that my nearest relatives are Patrick and Mary Kenny, however Mary married John Bierne and they live in Elphin. They live in the parish of Creeve and I think that the land they live on is called "Tuly-Lloyd" or something like that. I could get the address and phone number if needed. The data I have is as follows:<br>- Tom Kenney (me)<br>- Joseph Kenney (my father)<br>- Joseph Kenny (my grandfather, emmigrated in about 1911)<br>- Michael Kenny married to Catherine O'Brien (my great-grandfather, lived on the land of Carrownamaddy in the parish of Creeve, born approx. 1843)<br>- Michael Kenny married to D. McKeon<p>I have no birth dates beyond my grandfather's. Any info you could provide would be great. Thanks.<p>Tom Kenney<br>: : Hi, Ken,<br>: : The use of the names Martin, Michael, and Bernard by your Beirnes interests me. My Beirnes used those same names. My immigrant was John, son of Martin and Rose, from in or near Elphin. He emigrated in 1845. He married Bridget Kenny, also from the Elphin area, and their sons were Martin, Michael, and John. His sister named a son Bernard. Are there any women named Rose in your Beirne family?<br>: : Mary Lee Dunn<br>: : (PS FYI, my Dunn surname is from a Kildare line.)<p>: Hi Mary Lee,<p>: It sounds like your Beirnes emigrated somewhat before mine. Bernard, Michael, and Martin, all apparently born between 1860 and 1870 or so(though I do not have a clear hold on Michael's b-day) emigrated in the 1890's. So any links would probably have to be around Patrick's generation(probably born 1830-40) or even earlier. I assume that is about the time Catherine Dunn(e)(have both spellings -- of course! -- in documents) would have been born also. Bernard indicates he was born in Kilmore, Co. Roscommon, which I have been advised was in the registrar's area for Jamestown, Co. Leitrim. At this point I haven't narrowed things any more, since my relatives apparently were document-phobic and it took me the better part of two years to track down death records. <br>: I have to go play with the maps a little, to see where I am on this, but if you have any guesses on the Dunns, who are all new to me now, it would be a great help also<p>

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tkenney@rochester.rr.com

[Mary Lee Dunn]

: Have just found out I have been barking a bit up the wrong family tree. I am looking for info about g-grandparents, Patrick Beirne and Catherine Dunne(had thought it was Michael Beirne, which shows how much you can rely on oral tradition!), apparently married around 1850's, had my grandfather, Bernard Beirne in September 1868, and other children Martin D.(b. 1860), Michael and Alyce. Family is supposed to have lived in/near Frenchpark, Co. Roscommon, but Bernard's birth is apparently listed in Jamestown, Co. Leitrim. Finally found some documents on this, so am now looking for possible Dunne contacts as well as Beirnes. No info yet on any siblings of Patrick and Catherine.<p>Hi, Ken,<br> In looking for something else, I reread some notes I'd taken some years ago from record books at the Catholic Church in Elphin. I came across the following baptism and thought you might find it interesting for the Beirne-Dun(ne) combination; no townland was given though.<p>Nov. 21, 1825 Judith, daughter of Michael Berne and Catherine Dun.<br> Sponsors: John Moran and Bridget Berne<p>Mary Lee<br>

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