The Carlos Family

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Joan Earnshaw

The Carlos Family

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I'm looking for information about William Carlos who was born in late 1800s in Roscommon County and Catherine Crane who was born about the same time in Roscommon County. They both immigrated to the states and lived in Brownsville, IN. They were probably Catholic and knew each other in Ireland before getting married in Indiana (so the story goes). <br>I would appreciate knowing if any of the Carlos family is still about? Where to look for information on birth records, etc.?<br>Thanks in advance.<br>
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Carlos in Strokestown

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(User Above) wrote: : I'm looking for information about William Carlos who was born in late 1800s in Roscommon County and Catherine Crane who was born about the same time in Roscommon County. They both immigrated to the states and lived in Brownsville, IN. They were probably Catholic and knew each other in Ireland before getting married in Indiana (so the story goes). <br>: I would appreciate knowing if any of the Carlos family is still about? Where to look for information on birth records, etc.?<br>: Thanks in advance.<br>My mother,s aunt Jennie Boland from Scramoge was married to a Carlos and lived on Bawn St in Strokestown. She passed on three or more years ago. Around the corner on Elphin St, was a plaque on the door of a Solicitor Domenic Carlos, Thought that a Spanish name was odd and wondered if they could be descendant of a survivor of the Spanish Armada. Tina Campbell the posymistress on Elphin St might be able to direct corrwspondance to a Carlos in town. Hope this helps.<br>

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G. Syvarth

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(User Above) wrote: : I'm looking for information about William Carlos who was born in late 1800s in Roscommon County and Catherine Crane who was born about the same time in Roscommon County. They both immigrated to the states and lived in Brownsville, IN. They were probably Catholic and knew each other in Ireland before getting married in Indiana (so the story goes). <br>: I would appreciate knowing if any of the Carlos family is still about? Where to look for in@n on birth records, etc.?<br>: Thanks in advance.<p>

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G.Syvarth

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My gggrandfather was Patrick Carlos B 1821in Ireland. His wife was Mary(Burke) Carlos B 1820 in Ireland. Their children were Mary B Aug. 4,1854 Patrick B Dec. 22, 1855 and my grgrandmother Anna Elizabeth Carlos, B Aug.28,1860 all born in Ireland. Patrick Sr. came to america in 1863 and Mary and the children came to the U.S. in 1864. They lived in Hoboken New Jersey. Any connections?
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Breffni O'Rourke

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>><p>Thought that a Spanish name was odd and wondered if they could be descendant of a survivor of the Spanish Armada. Tina Campbell the posymistress on Elphin St might be able to direct corrwspondance to a Carlos in town. Hope this helps.<p><<<p>There's a Carlos somewhere in my family tree, and my father was told while researching that it was most likely a spelling variant of the not-uncommon Irish surname Corless.<p>
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P. Brosnahan

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<br>: : I'm looking for information about William Carlos who was born in late 1800s in Roscommon County and Catherine Crane who was born about the same time in Roscommon County. They both immigrated to the states and lived in Brownsville, IN. They were probably Catholic and knew each other in Ireland before getting married in Indiana (so the story goes). <br>: : I would appreciate knowing if any of the Carlos family is still about? Where to look for information on birth records, etc.?<br>: : Thanks in advance.<br>: My mother,s aunt Jennie Boland from Scramoge was married to a Carlos and lived on Bawn St in Strokestown. She passed on three or more years ago. Around the corner on Elphin St, was a plaque on the door of a Solicitor Domenic Carlos, Thought that a Spanish name was odd and wondered if they could be descendant of a survivor of the Spanish Armada. Tina Campbell the posymistress on Elphin St might be able to direct corrwspondance to a Carlos in town. Hope this helps.<p>The following is from the book The Heart of Ireland, by P. A. Sharkey. It gives the origin of the name and where the families lived and many are buried. ..."310 THE HEART OF IRELAND<br>provinces) was anciently distinguished (i.e. divided) into countries called Doohie or Tyre (Tuaith, Tire), named from such and such families or nations, i.e. tribes, as in the Barony of Athlone; Doohie Keogh, the country or nation of the Keoghs. In the Barony of Ballintobber, i.e. north, Doohie Hanly, the country of the Hanlys, and betwixt Elphin and Jamestown, that sweet country Teer O'Ruin, and, i.e., alias Teer O'Byrn, the country of the Bairns. These countries were sub-divided into townlands (in some parts of Ireland known by the denomination, i.e. name, of ploughlands) which are called Ballys, as in Doohie Hanly, Bally na nagulluh Gyllstown, Bally Gilleclinne, the town of the chlinnes Ballyf eeny, &c.<br>These townlands are all in the parish of Kilglass, but Keogh has spelled them in a very slobbering manner; they should be spelled thus: Bally-na-nghullub, BAILE NA NGIOLLA, now Gillstown; Bally gille clinne, BAILE MHIC CIOLLA CHLAOIN, now called Ballykilcline, but most correct in the Inquisitions, Bally Gillechleone; Ballyfeeny, BAILE UI FIDHNIGH, now Ballyfeeny. The three families after whom these townlands were named exist in the country still, and now Anglicise themselves: Gill, Cline, or Kilcline (Cloyn) (not Clinne, short) and Feeny. The Feeneys are very numerous here, but they are not of the original tribes of the Three Tuaths, for MacFirbis places them in the Ffayes of Athlone.<br>Mr. John Keogh, the writer of the tract on Roscommon now before me, was a Protestant clergyman and lived at Cloonslanor, within three-quarters of a mile of Strokestown, where his family had some purchased property, but which has since passed out of the hands of the Keoghs. Tradition says that John Keogh was a great Botanist, Zoologist and Astrologer: "that lie wrote a book on Irish botany and fishes, and that he is more than 100 years dead. "<br>Strokestown, August 17th, 1837.<br>Dear Sir,<br>I visited the old Church of Cloonfinlough, which is situated in a cluain, bounded on one side by a bog and on another by a lough called FION LOCH, i.e., white lake v unde nomen. The church itself is a small rude building evidently of great antiquity, but all its features are destroyed. Tradition makes it a church of St. Patrick, but no reliance can be placed on this tradition. The townland in which this little church stands was originally called Cluain Fionnlocha, and gave name to the parish and church, but now, strange to say, that name is forgotten, and the townland called Baile an teampull, from the church.<br>I visited Lissonuffy, a very curious church, said to have been built within the ring of an earthen fort by the O'Duffys and Carlos (MACH CARLUISC) in the 6th century; all which is, I am convinced, true, except the date, which is unquestionably wrong,<p> THE "COUNTY" OF KILGLASS 311<br>as the name O'Duffy was not in existence in the 6th century, and the church, of which a great portion is standing, is the Gothic style, of which the oldest specimen now in existence is dated 1126.<br>The Duffys and Carlos are interred in great numbers in this churchyard, and it would appear that they were the ancient Erenachs of the place. According to tradition, the O'Duffys came hither from the County of Louth in the sixth century and possessed the townlands of Tullyvarran, Ballyduffy, Carroward, Caggalkeenagh, and Ballintemple, in the parish of Lissoduffy. The ring of the fort was nearly levelled about fifteen years ago, when the present wall enclosing the churchyard was erected. Until then the Lis, which was planted with white thorns, was the only enclosure, and prevented the pigs from disturbing the bones of the O'Duffys, which the present wall does not (because the gate is left open). Besides this church, there were two others in the parish; one called Teampull Riabhach, which stood within 8 perches to the S.E. of the present church, and another in the upper (i.e., south) part of the townland of Ballinafad, on the summit of the hill, and about three-quarter mile south from the present church of Lissonuffy. We learn from the Annals of the Four Masters, at the year 1471, that the true name of this place is Lios Ua n-Dubhthaigh, that is the fort of the O'Duffys, and that it was in Mac Branan's country, "A.D. 1741, Donnell (son of Cormac, son of Manus, Mac Branain, was treacherously slain at Lios Ua n-Dubhthaigh (arx Duffiorum), in violation of the guarantee of the lords and chieftains of the Sil-Murray, by Con, the son of Teige Mae Branain, who had submitted to him some time before." &c.<br>The marble monument, to which Dr. O'Conor makes the following reference, is still to be seen in this churchyard.<br>"The O'Conors Roe and O'Conors Sligo who branched from this family in later times are extinct. The last of the O'Conors Roe was Governor of Civita Vecchia, the principal seaport town in the Pope's dominions, and a place of great confidence. From that. he sent to Belanagare the monument of Carrara marble which has been erected to the memory of his family in the church yard of Ballinafad (rectius of Lissonuffy, near Ballinafad), and also his portrait, a striking likeness, which may be seen in the parlour at Belanagare. The last of the O'Conors Don who possessed the castle and extensive estates of Ballintober, was Hugh O'Conor Don, who died in 1662." Mem. Ch. O'Conor, P. 803.<br>Let me here correct a tradition which I received at Ballintober. The Bawn of that castle was destroyed by O'Donnell with one brass cannon which he planted on the hill of Ballyfinnigan, and not by Cromwell, as I was told at Ballintober. A short time before the year 1798 a brother of the late Dominic O'Conor Don,<p><p><p>
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P. Brosnahan

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<br>: : I'm looking for information about William Carlos who was born in late 1800s in Roscommon County and Catherine Crane who was born about the same time in Roscommon County. They both immigrated to the states and lived in Brownsville, IN. They were probably Catholic and knew each other in Ireland before getting married in Indiana (so the story goes). <br>: : I would appreciate knowing if any of the Carlos family is still about? Where to look for information on birth records, etc.?<br>: : Thanks in advance.<br>: My mother,s aunt Jennie Boland from Scramoge was married to a Carlos and lived on Bawn St in Strokestown. She passed on three or more years ago. Around the corner on Elphin St, was a plaque on the door of a Solicitor Domenic Carlos, Thought that a Spanish name was odd and wondered if they could be descendant of a survivor of the Spanish Armada. Tina Campbell the posymistress on Elphin St might be able to direct corrwspondance to a Carlos in town. Hope this helps.<p>The following is from the book The Heart of Ireland, by P. A. Sharkey. It gives the origin of the name and where the families lived and many are buried. ..."310 THE HEART OF IRELAND<br>provinces) was anciently distinguished (i.e. divided) into countries called Doohie or Tyre (Tuaith, Tire), named from such and such families or nations, i.e. tribes, as in the Barony of Athlone; Doohie Keogh, the country or nation of the Keoghs. In the Barony of Ballintobber, i.e. north, Doohie Hanly, the country of the Hanlys, and betwixt Elphin and Jamestown, that sweet country Teer O'Ruin, and, i.e., alias Teer O'Byrn, the country of the Bairns. These countries were sub-divided into townlands (in some parts of Ireland known by the denomination, i.e. name, of ploughlands) which are called Ballys, as in Doohie Hanly, Bally na nagulluh Gyllstown, Bally Gilleclinne, the town of the chlinnes Ballyf eeny, &c.<br>These townlands are all in the parish of Kilglass, but Keogh has spelled them in a very slobbering manner; they should be spelled thus: Bally-na-nghullub, BAILE NA NGIOLLA, now Gillstown; Bally gille clinne, BAILE MHIC CIOLLA CHLAOIN, now called Ballykilcline, but most correct in the Inquisitions, Bally Gillechleone; Ballyfeeny, BAILE UI FIDHNIGH, now Ballyfeeny. The three families after whom these townlands were named exist in the country still, and now Anglicise themselves: Gill, Cline, or Kilcline (Cloyn) (not Clinne, short) and Feeny. The Feeneys are very numerous here, but they are not of the original tribes of the Three Tuaths, for MacFirbis places them in the Ffayes of Athlone.<br>Mr. John Keogh, the writer of the tract on Roscommon now before me, was a Protestant clergyman and lived at Cloonslanor, within three-quarters of a mile of Strokestown, where his family had some purchased property, but which has since passed out of the hands of the Keoghs. Tradition says that John Keogh was a great Botanist, Zoologist and Astrologer: "that lie wrote a book on Irish botany and fishes, and that he is more than 100 years dead. "<br>Strokestown, August 17th, 1837.<br>Dear Sir,<br>I visited the old Church of Cloonfinlough, which is situated in a cluain, bounded on one side by a bog and on another by a lough called FION LOCH, i.e., white lake v unde nomen. The church itself is a small rude building evidently of great antiquity, but all its features are destroyed. Tradition makes it a church of St. Patrick, but no reliance can be placed on this tradition. The townland in which this little church stands was originally called Cluain Fionnlocha, and gave name to the parish and church, but now, strange to say, that name is forgotten, and the townland called Baile an teampull, from the church.<br>I visited Lissonuffy, a very curious church, said to have been built within the ring of an earthen fort by the O'Duffys and Carlos (MACH CARLUISC) in the 6th century; all which is, I am convinced, true, except the date, which is unquestionably wrong,<p> THE "COUNTY" OF KILGLASS 311<br>as the name O'Duffy was not in existence in the 6th century, and the church, of which a great portion is standing, is the Gothic style, of which the oldest specimen now in existence is dated 1126.<br>The Duffys and Carlos are interred in great numbers in this churchyard, and it would appear that they were the ancient Erenachs of the place. According to tradition, the O'Duffys came hither from the County of Louth in the sixth century and possessed the townlands of Tullyvarran, Ballyduffy, Carroward, Caggalkeenagh, and Ballintemple, in the parish of Lissoduffy. The ring of the fort was nearly levelled about fifteen years ago, when the present wall enclosing the churchyard was erected. Until then the Lis, which was planted with white thorns, was the only enclosure, and prevented the pigs from disturbing the bones of the O'Duffys, which the present wall does not (because the gate is left open). Besides this church, there were two others in the parish; one called Teampull Riabhach, which stood within 8 perches to the S.E. of the present church, and another in the upper (i.e., south) part of the townland of Ballinafad, on the summit of the hill, and about three-quarter mile south from the present church of Lissonuffy. We learn from the Annals of the Four Masters, at the year 1471, that the true name of this place is Lios Ua n-Dubhthaigh, that is the fort of the O'Duffys, and that it was in Mac Branan's country, "A.D. 1741, Donnell (son of Cormac, son of Manus, Mac Branain, was treacherously slain at Lios Ua n-Dubhthaigh (arx Duffiorum), in violation of the guarantee of the lords and chieftains of the Sil-Murray, by Con, the son of Teige Mae Branain, who had submitted to him some time before." &c.<br>The marble monument, to which Dr. O'Conor makes the following reference, is still to be seen in this churchyard.<br>"The O'Conors Roe and O'Conors Sligo who branched from this family in later times are extinct. The last of the O'Conors Roe was Governor of Civita Vecchia, the principal seaport town in the Pope's dominions, and a place of great confidence. From that. he sent to Belanagare the monument of Carrara marble which has been erected to the memory of his family in the church yard of Ballinafad (rectius of Lissonuffy, near Ballinafad), and also his portrait, a striking likeness, which may be seen in the parlour at Belanagare. The last of the O'Conors Don who possessed the castle and extensive estates of Ballintober, was Hugh O'Conor Don, who died in 1662." Mem. Ch. O'Conor, P. 803.<br>Let me here correct a tradition which I received at Ballintober. The Bawn of that castle was destroyed by O'Donnell with one brass cannon which he planted on the hill of Ballyfinnigan, and not by Cromwell, as I was told at Ballintober. A short time before the year 1798 a brother of the late Dominic O'Conor Don,<p><p><p>
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Paul H. Carlos

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(User Above) wrote: :I'm looking for any info regarding my family history. My father's<br>parents came from Mexico in the twenties? My Grandpa had some theory's<br>about a family with many sons named "Carlos"<br>which became known as the Carlos family.<br>The name Godoy has come up as well. Please write.<br>Thanks. PC<p><p><p><p><br> for information about William Carlos who was born in late 1800s in Roscommon County and Catherine Crane who was born about the same time in Roscommon County. They both immigrated to the states and lived in Brownsville, IN. They were probably Catholic and knew each other in Ireland before getting married in Indiana (so the story goes). <br>: I would appreciate knowing if any of the Carlos family is still about? Where to look for information on birth records, etc.?<br>: Thanks in advance.<p>

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