McGarry Family

William McGarry · Post by **William McGarry** » Tue Jul 21, 1998 4:45 pm

My Grandfather was Edward Andrew McGArry born in 1866 at Croghan, Co. Rosscommon. I believe he was the youngest of 13. I am trying to locate the names and decendants of his brothers and sisters. On a recent trip ti Croghan I was able to find baptism records for the children born between 1862 and 1866. My great great grandparents were James and Matilda McGarry. He was the land steward on the Lloyd Estate in Croghan. Any information about the McGarry's or Lloyd Estate would be appreciated.
 
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Helen Brennan · Post by **Helen Brennan** » Tue Jul 21, 1998 8:21 pm

(User Above) wrote: : My Grandfather was Edward Andrew McGArry born in 1866 at Croghan, Co. Rosscommon. I believe he was the youngest of 13. I am trying to locate the names and decendants of his brothers and sisters. On a recent trip ti Croghan I was able to find baptism records for the children born between 1862 and 1866. My great great grandparents were James and Matilda McGarry. He was the land steward on the Lloyd Estate in Croghan. Any information about the McGarry's or Lloyd Estate would be appreciated. There was a very interesting article on the Lloyds of Croghan House in the Co. Roscommon Historical and Archaeological Society Journal, Volume III, pages 15-17. The article was written by Seamus Creighton. The journal is published every other year and this year I believe they are publishing Vol. 7 so I don't know where you can get a copy. Perhaps the Heritage Center in Strokestown could tell you. The article is about the Lloyd Family. There are no names listed of any of the people who worked in Croghan House.

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Paul Brosnahan · Post by **Paul Brosnahan** » Wed Jul 22, 1998 8:13 pm

: My Grandfather was Edward Andrew McGArry born in 1866 at Croghan, Co. Rosscommon. I believe he was the youngest of 13. I am trying to locate the names and decendants of his brothers and sisters. On a recent trip ti Croghan I was able to find baptism records for the children born between 1862 and 1866. My great great grandparents were James and Matilda McGarry. He was the land steward on the Lloyd Estate in Croghan. Any information about the McGarry's or Lloyd Estate would be appreciated. This may or may not be of interest to you, but the Llyod mentioned in the following passage from the book The Heart of Ireland, by P. A. Sharkey, published in 1924 (book not copyrighted) and sponsored by many people with connections to the area, is linked to the Llyod estate. Elphin, which is mentioned, is only a mile from Croghan. The Llyods were related to Oliver Goldsmith, and the following is of interest, I believe, particularly since the Oliver Goldsmith Theater Group is now touring the US. Also, some of Goldsmith's writing, which are included, note the "clearings" of the Plains of Boyle, which is a reason why there are many messages on this web site. The writings are also related to the Great Hunger. The Lloyds were Cromwellians who supplanted the original Irish owners of that land. Dr. O'Rourke, in his preface of his History of Sligo, says:- "After the subjection and disappearance of the Celtic chiefs (O'Connor, O'Hara, O'Gara, MacDonagh, O'Dowd, MacSweeny and O'Rourke, etc.), their lands were parcelled out to Anglo-Irish, English, Welsh and Scotch grantees-the Taaffes, Cootes, Coopers, Ormsbys, Joneses, Gores, Parkes, Straffords and Ratcliffes. Most of these families came in with Cromwell, or made common cause with Cromwell on his arrival. The Croftons were interlopers before 1641; the Cootes, Coopers, Wynnes and Joneses came when Cromwell had cleared a way for them…. 'In this way,' says Dr. O'Rourke, 'the population of the country was entirely changed, and while the old inhabitants had to fly across the sea, as wild geese, or were shipped to the Barbadoes for the sugar plantations, or were knocked on the head as wild beasts, or hid themselves in the mountains in the hope of a change in the times, their lands and places were occupied by the Cootes, Coopers, Kings, Ormsbys, Jones, Lloyds, Griffiths, Irwins , etc., etc., whose descendants have played since so important a part in the affairs of the district.' We have only to remark here that a goodly number must have fled to the mountains, men who refused to be driven or shipped out of their homeland and who, like the De Danaans, took to dugouts, caves and impassable bogs, just as we have seen the defenders of Liberty do in our own day." This is the passage about the Lloyds: ELPHIN THE BIRTHPLACE OF GOLDSMITH The reader may be surprised at the writer's claim to Oliver Goldsmith as a Roscommon poet. Read the following letter from Robert Jones Lloyd, whose grandmother and Oliver's grandmother were own sisters:- To the Rev. Dr. Strean, Smithhill, 24th December, 1804. Dear Sir, The Rev. Oliver Jones was Curate of Elplin and also had the diocesan school of that town; he lived where I now live, a little more than half a mile from the church. He had four daughters and no son. My grandfather, George Hicks, was was married to one of these daughters and consequently knew every circumstance relating to that family; and he has often told me that the Rev. Charles Goldsmith, who was married to another of Mr. Jones daughters had a curacy near Athlone; and that Mrs. Goldsmith spent most of her time with her mother, Mrs. Jones, then a widow, and living at Smithhill; that Oliver Goldsmith was born here, in his grandfather's house, that he was nursed and reared here, and got the early part of his education at the school of Elphin. My mother, the only child of the above George Hicks and Miss Jones, was contemporary with Oliver Goldsmith and brought up in her father's house. She also had often told me the foregoing circumstances; and has shown me the very spot where the bed stood in which Goldsmith was born. From what I have always heard and understood, I never had a doubt on my mind that Goldsmith was born here. I am, etc., etc., ROBERT JONES LLOYD. That Goldsmith knew of the tradition in Connaught concerning the Firbolgs, may be seen from the following reference to them as "Belgians --as they are often called: "Heavens! how unlike their Belgic sires of old! Rough, poor, content, ungovernably bold: War in each breast and freedom on each brow, How much unlike the sons of Neimid now!'' Goldsmith, it is true, substitutes the name of Briotan Maol for that of Nemid, but it is easy to see that his reference is to the men of his own land. Again he decries the wane of patriotism thus:- "Nor this the worst-as nature's ties decay As duty, love and honour fail to sway. Fictitious bonds-the bonds of wealth and law- Still gather strength and force unwilling awe. FOURTH ROAD TRIP 297 hence all obedience sinks to these alone. And talent sinks, and merit weeps alone, Till time may come when stripped of all her charms, THE LAND OF SCHOLARS and the nurse of arms, Where noble stems transmit the patriot's flame, Where kings have toiled and poets wrote for fame, One sink of level avarice shall he And scholars soldiers, kings, unhonoured die." He goes on to describe Freedom, remarking sagely of it:- "Thou transitory flower, alike undone By proud contempt or favour's fostering sun." And with a poet's language expresses his opinion of excessive and unjust taxation, remarking:- "And all that Freedom's highest aim can reach Is but to Jay proportioned loads loads each; Hence should one order disproportioned grow Its double weight must ruin till below." The statesmanship, patriotism, and justice of the man is seen in his lines on party government:- When I behold a factious band agree To call it freedom when thernselves are free; Each wanton Judge new penal statutes draw; Laws grind the poor, and rich men rule the law. The wealth of climes where savage nations roam, Pillaged from slaves to purchase slaves at home; Fear, pity, justice, indignation start, Tear off reserve, and bare my swelling heart." Goldsmith lived at a time when emigration was not such a bleeding artery in lreland's heart as it is to-day, yet he saw, with the patriot-poet's eye and the poet's sense of wrong, her children driven from her shores, because of tyranny and the avaricious desire to exploit Ireland for England's benefit. He, writes:- "Have we not seen around her peopled shore Her useful sons exchanged for useless ore? Seen all her triumphs but destruction haste, Like flaring tapers brightening as they waste? Seen opulence, her grandeur to maintain, Lead stern depopulation in her train, And over fields where scattered hamlets rose In barren solitary pomp repose? Have we not seen, at pleasure's lordly call, The smiling, Iong-frequented, village hall; Beheld the dutious son, the sire decayed, The modest matron, and the blushing maid Forced from their homes, a melancholy train, To traverse climes beyond the, western main? The pensive exile, bending with his woe, To stop too fearful, and too faint to go, Casts a long look where England's glory shine, And bids his bosom sympathise with mine." There are many who say that the plains of Boyle, the plains of Magh Ai, from which 250,000 people were cleared to make room for bullocks and sheep, was the "Auburn" of his Deserted Village. If it was not; the picture he draws was before him on the plains of Roscommon, when he says:- "Sweet, smiling village, loveliest of the lawn, Thy sports are fled, and all thy charms withdrawn; Amidst thy bowers the tyrant's hand is seen, And desolation saddens all thy green. One only master grasps the whole domain And half a tillage stints the smiling plain; Amidst thy desert walks the lapwing flies And tires their echoes with unvarying cries; Sunk are thy bowers, in shapeless ruin all, And the Iong grass o'ertops the smouldering wall; And trembling, shrinking from the spoiler's hand, Far, far away, thy children leave the land. Along the lawn where scattered hamlets rose, Unwieldy wealth and cumbrous pomp repose, And every want to opulence allied, And every pang that folly pays to pride; Those gentle hours that plenty bade to bloom, Those calm desires that ask but little room, Those healthful sports that graced the peaceful scene, Lived in each look, and brightened all the green; These, far departing, seek a kinder shore, And rural mirth and manners are no more. But now the sounds of population fail, No cheerful murmurs fluctuate the gale, No busy steps the grass-grown footway tread, For all the blooming flush of life is fled." Every reader knows, or ought to know, the description of the details of village life as drawn by the great Roscommon poet. He even excoriates the foreign fashions introduced to kill the native and the aping of foreign pleasures as such :- "… the long pomp, the midnight masquerade, With all the freaks of wanton wealth arrayed, In these, ere triflers half their wish obtain, The toiling pleasure sickens into pain; And e'en while fashion's brightest arts decoy, The heart, distrusting, asks if this be joy."" His lines- "Ill fares the land, to hastening ills a prey, Where wealth accumulates and men decay" - are often quoted, but every Irishman can find wisdom and pleasure in the works of this great Irish poet from the Heart of Ireland. 
 
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Evelyn Brown · Post by **Evelyn Brown** » Mon Jul 27, 1998 4:49 pm

(User Above) wrote: : My Grandfather was Edward Andrew McGArry born in 1866 at Croghan, Co. Rosscommon. I believe he was the youngest of 13. I am trying to locate the names and decendants of his brothers and sisters. On a recent trip ti Croghan I was able to find baptism records for the children born between 1862 and 1866. My great great grandparents were James and Matilda McGarry. He was the land steward on the Lloyd Estate in Croghan. Any information about the McGarry's or Lloyd Estate would be appreciated.Hi, My Great Grandmother was Susan McGarry, her father was James McGarry and her mother was Matilda (Rutherford) McGarry, My James was also a steward. Please contact me EBROWN@prodigy.net, I think they are one and the same. Evelyn

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