I am a member of a Creamer family reputed to be Irish, but not yet proven.The earliest I know is Daniel Creamer born 1795 in South Carolina. I have several generations descending from Daniel and wife Martha. I found another Daniel Creamer who emigrated to Philadelphia, PA from Dublin as an indentured servant. Any ideas?<br>Barb<br>
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Creamer family from Ireland?
Re: Creamer family from Ireland?
(User Above) wrote: : I am a member of a Creamer family reputed to be Irish, but not yet proven.The earliest I know is Daniel Creamer born 1795 in South Carolina. I have several generations descending from Daniel and wife Martha. I found another Daniel Creamer who emigrated to Philadelphia, PA from Dublin as an indentured servant. Any ideas?<br>: Barb<p><br>Dia Duit / Hello, <p>On the first matter, the surname Creamer is still alternating with the surname Mc Nama in south Leitrim and north Roscommon. That is, the same family can have both forms applied to them. Very occasionally, in writing, both forms will be given so as to identify a person definitely to all who may be acquainted with the person in question. <p>Mac Lysaght (Surnames of Ireland) has complicated the matter by mentioning that in Leitrim 'it can be a corruption of Mac Creanor ....', a Co. Monaghan surname. <p>Creamer, Cramer, Kramer, Krahmer, Cremor, which were used formerly in this area (Matheson) being used for (Mac Con Meadha >) Mac Nama is merely a pseudotranslation. Meadh is not 'cream', but rather 'mead'. The personal name on which the surname is based, Cú Meadha do not contain 'cream' as such, but rather 'mead'. Even in this instance it may reflect the Co. Galway placename near Tuam, Cnoc Meadha. (despite a reference elsewhere not realising the same conclusion) <p>i.e. the placename is based on the common noun and the personal > surname is based on the placename. <p>Families still alternating between the two forms ought to choose the more correct, transliterate form of this fine name, Mac Nama, for an English language form, if they don't want, as of yet to go the whole hog. In doing so, they connect to others of the same background and form as themselves in the region : Mac Naboola < Mac Con na Búille, Conefrey < Mac Con Fraoich and the original dynastic name which they all reflect : Conmaicne (Magh Réin)! <p>Your second point, indenture, is very interesting. I shall have to mail you. <p>Beir bua - Good luck. <p>
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